George Duncan Mc
Banned
English - Scotland
- Apr 4, 2018
- #1
I heard on an episode of something on TV last night someone say "I'm going to take a shower".
This sounded really odd to me, should it not be "I'm going to go and have a shower" or something similar? The verb "take" sounds wrong in this context.
jsharm
Senior Member
English - Australia
- Apr 4, 2018
- #2
No, it's quite natural to say 'I'm going to take a shower'.
George Duncan Mc
Banned
English - Scotland
- Apr 4, 2018
- #3
Although it may be natural to say (I would certainly argue that is not the case), grammatically it makes no sense. Take it where?
Myridon
Senior Member
Texas
English - US
- Apr 4, 2018
- #4
Grammar and meaning are separate. The grammar is unassailable.
The meaning is well established. It shouldn't take you by surprise (where did it take you?) that "take" has many meanings (114 verbal meanings in the Random House Unabridged section).
take - WordReference.com Dictionary of English
11 to do, perform, etc.:[~ + object] She took a hot bath.
19 to have for one's benefit or use: to take a meal; to take a nap; to take a bath.
Note that you can also "take a shit" (to defecate).
dojibear
Senior Member
Fresno CA
English (US - northeast)
- Apr 4, 2018
- #5
The "it" makes no sense either. A shower isn't an "it". You can't put it in a bag, a box or a suitcase to "take it somewhere".
And it makes no sense to "have" a shower either. I have one -- I got it in 2008, but it's still fresh...
A shower is an experience. It would make sense to say "I am going to experience a shower". Anything else is an idiom, or an extended meaning for a verb (take, have).
JulianStuart
Senior Member
Sonoma County CA
English (UK then US)
- Apr 4, 2018
- #6
The phrase have a shower is more popular in British English than in American English (which is your native language?), but take a shower is more popular than have a shower in both forms of English.
Andygc
Senior Member
British English
- Apr 4, 2018
- #7
George Duncan Mc said:
Although it may be natural to say (I would certainly argue that is not the case)
You puzzle me. I have been taking showers for some 60 years. Which variety of English do you speak?
Hermione Golightly
Senior Member
London
British English
- Apr 4, 2018
- #8
I heard on an episode of something on TV last night someone say "I'm going to take a shower".
What does 'something' mean? We need to know which episode of what, and who was talking. That's called context and source which are both required by forum rules.
...grammatically it makes no sense. Take it where?
Grammatically there is no problem whatsoever. Grammar doesn't have to make sense.
A literal interpretation of 'take' or anything is frankly worrying. Please look 'take' up and see how many meanings it can have.
I've been 'having' showers for about fifty-five years. I don't mean I 'eat' them or 'have sex with' them: 'have' is used in other contexts with both those meanings.
This is part of what's called 'idiom'. It's a major problem for students of English, or native speakers learning other languages.
'I'm going to have/for/ a shower' is what I say.
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You little ripper!
Senior Member
Australia
Australian English
- Apr 4, 2018
- #9
jsharm said:
No, it's quite natural to say 'I'm going to take a shower'.
I'm surprised to hear you say that, jsharm. The natural expression here is "I'm going to
have a shower". 'Taking a shower' has always sounded American to me.
JulianStuart said:
The phrase have a shower is more popular in British English than in American English (which is your native language?), but take a shower is more popular than have a shower in both forms of English.
I've only just got out of bed so my brain hasn't quite kicked in yet, Julian.
Andygc said:
I have been taking showers for some 60 years.
I thought Brits 'had showers' like Australians (except for jsharm, of course ). Actually, I thought they only had baths, and just once a week, but that's a different story!
jsharm
Senior Member
English - Australia
- Apr 5, 2018
- #10
Well, you little ripper, although I concede that 'having a shower' is a more popular activity than 'taking a shower' in Australia, nonetheless I and many others I've known have actually 'taken' showers (to use our own terminology), as well as 'had' showers, for many, many years in this country! There is an intermixture happening here - we are subjected to both British and American language influences, and many of us alternate accordingly.
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You little ripper!
Senior Member
Australia
Australian English
- Apr 5, 2018
- #11
jsharm said:
we are subjected to both British and American language influences, and many of us alternate accordingly.
American film and television. It could also be an age thing. 'Take' may be more popular with young folk.
jsharm
Senior Member
English - Australia
- Apr 5, 2018
- #12
Well, I'm not that young , but on reflection I'd agree with you that 'take a shower' sounds a little odd if used here, although I have heard and used it on quite a few occasions.
JulianStuart
Senior Member
Sonoma County CA
English (UK then US)
- Apr 5, 2018
- #13
JulianStuart said:
The phrase have a shower is more popular in British English than in American English (which is your native language?), but take a shower is more popular than have a shower in both forms of English.
You little ripper! said:
I've only just got out of bed so my brain hasn't quite kicked in yet, Julian.
Sorry - I was on my iPhone and posting Ngrams is tough.
Here's the data I was basing the statements on (have a shower, take a shower for AE and BE compared. Sorry there's no AusE database)
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You little ripper!
Senior Member
Australia
Australian English
- Apr 5, 2018
- #14
JulianStuart said:
Sorry - I was on my iPhone and posting Ngrams is tough.
Here's the data I was basing the statements on (have a shower, take a shower for AE and BE compared. Sorry there's no AusE database)
I couldn't understand how 'having a shower' was more popular in British English than American, but 'taking one' was more popular in both. I'll go and have a coffee now.
Ashraful Haque
Senior Member
Bengali
- Dec 5, 2019
- #15
Is it also correct to say, 'I'm going to shower now' and 'I just showered'?
natkretep
Moderato con anima (English Only)
Singapore
English (Singapore/UK), basic Chinese
- Dec 5, 2019
- #16
Yes, it's correct, but probably less common in speech.
In speech we like to use the noun versions to represent an activity: 'I had a walk/swim/jog this morning' rather than 'I walked/swam/jogged this morning'.
zaffy
Senior Member
Polish
- Jun 24, 2021
- #17
Andygc said:
You puzzle me. I have been taking showers for some 60 years.
And do you ever say "have a shower" too?
Hermione Golightly said:
I've been 'having' showers for about fifty-five years.
So you never say 'take a shower' , do you?
heypresto
Senior Member
South East England
English - England
- Jun 24, 2021
- #18
We can 'take' or 'have' a shower. They both have the same meaning. Personally I usually use 'have', but that doesn't stop 'take' being just as correct. Whichever one you go for, you won't be wrong.
Myridon
Senior Member
Texas
English - US
- Jun 24, 2021
- #19
zaffy said:
And do you ever say "have a shower" too?
So you never say 'take a shower' , do you?
I've been eating apples for about fifty-five years, but that doesn't mean I've never eaten anything else. You're reading too much into the statement - assuming things that weren't said.
kentix
Senior Member
English - U.S.
- Jun 24, 2021
- #20
"Take a look" is common in the U.S. Of course, it is impossible to grab "a look" and wrap it up to take with you. Do the people who say "have a shower" also say "have a look"? Does it sound weird?
Wordy McWordface
Senior Member
SSBE (Standard Southern British English)
- Jun 24, 2021
- #21
kentix said:
Do the people who say "have a shower" also say "have a look"? Does it sound weird?
Do the people who say "have a shower" also say "have a look"?
Yes. Lots of people, myself included, say 'have a bath', 'have a shower' and 'have a look'.
Does it sound weird?
Not to us.
As a general rule, most of the common everyday activities where AmE speakers use 'take', BrE speakers would tend to use either 'have' or 'go for a' . For example 'have a nap' or 'go for a walk'.
The same goes for bodily functions: where Americans 'take a xxxx', Brits either 'have a xxxx' or (slightly more politely) 'go for a ...'.
Myridon
Senior Member
Texas
English - US
- Jun 24, 2021
- #22
I'm perfectly comfortable with both "have/take a bath", "have/take a shower," but only "take a piss/whizz/shit" (note that that doesn't work with pee, poop, ...).
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